Replying to this blog:
|“The only foundation for a useful education in a republic is to be laid in religion. Without this there can be no virtue, and without virtue there can be no liberty”|
“Secular schools can never be tolerated because such a school has no religious instruction and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith…. We need believing people.”
– Adolf Hitler, Mein Kamf
“Why is it we as Americans think we are fixing something that is not broken, we took religion out of schools thinking it made us more tolerable, that it would give our students a better education, or for whatever reason, saying there is no room for Religion in academic thinking, while forgetting that our very academic foundation was found on Christian Principles.”
No, we took religious indoctrination out of the schools and you can still teach kids about religion, you just cannot preach your religion to everyone else’s kids. And our academic foundation was in no way built on the intermixing of religion and government, this country was designed specifically in opposition to theocracy to be a place where everyone can live and express their views.
“Our greatest colleges, were created By Christians”
And if our country had been over 95% hindu for most of it’s history then it’s greatest colleges would’ve been built by hindus.
“and laws were passed as early as 1690 for Literacy so that Children would be able to read the Bible and read the laws. In fact there were inspectors sent to peoples houses, to make sure that the children in the household could read. If they could not a twenty five dollar fine was placed on the family, alot of money in that day…”
Dollars weren’t even a unit of currency in the 1600s.
“Benjamin Rush warned educators that if we took the Bible out of our schools we would spend more time and energy on punishing crimes and less time on preventing them, because we would not be teaching our children the morals that are so instilled in our Bible the Morales that teach us right from wrong…How prophetic those words from nearly three centuries are today… When we took prayer out of schools, violence sky rocketed, teen pregnancy hit all time highs, and many children fell down a darker path than ever before.”
The huge irony here is that there’s a direct correlation between a state being more religious and more socially conservative and having MORE pregnant teens.
Religious highschools that preach abstinence also have higher rates of STDs and pregnancy then secular schools and we’ve seen less and less teen pregnancy in the last 10 years. Not to mention the idea that all social change happens because of one court decision is ridiculous and has no logic to it.
So far as violent crimes many of the least violent countries with the lowest rates of war, terrorism, rape, robbery are the most secular, and countries like sweden and norway that are almost entirely made up of atheists have crime rates a fraction of those in the US which is 75% christian. The homicide rate in the US is triple the homicide rate in sweden, and sweden is about 80% atheists. The US has over 6 times as many murders as norway, which is 70% atheists.
“I am not saying we lived in a perfect society before, and many Christians embraced some very un Christ like ideals before and sadly many still do, but did you know that in the early days of our Country John Witherspoon trained African American Students at Princeton, something that was not so common in the days counting up to the revolution…”
Did you know christians enslaved africans for centuries because the bible says to this day that slavery is a god-given and totally acceptable practice? You have very selective vision. And many atheists like thomas paine led the rally for abolishing slavery, so do we get to teach your kids atheism in the schools as a reward?
“That Even Benjamin Franklin stated schools to educate African Americans, because they beleived that all people deserved an education, and they believed that the Bible should not be excluded from education, that is not to say it was the only text book in schools, but it was used, and it was used to help build the students character and morals…”
“When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, ’tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.”
– Benjamin Franklin
“The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer when you put out your Candle.”
– Benjamin Franklin
“I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies.”
– Benjamin Franklin
“Michelle R Kidwell”
Mark aka agnophilo : )