TSA Body Scanners.

I left this comment on a blog about the TSA body scanners:

The airport body-scanning machines are like tasers for cops.  On one hand it’s good for them to have a non-lethal way to take someone down, but on the other hand it makes them more likely to use force.  Same with the body scanners.  I’d rather get scanned then stripped naked, but I suspect they’ll be doing more scans now than they previously did strip searches.

Ultimately it’s about covering the ass of the politicians and airline CEOs, not covering the ass of the passengers, who, even if 9/11 happened every year, would still be at greater risk of death getting into a car to drive to the airport than they are in the plane once they take off.  They want to be able to say that they did everything they could to prevent it when the next terrorist attack happens, in reality there is no way to reliably prevent someone who wants to do some damage and doesn’t care about making it out alive from eventually hurting people.  We live in an imperfect world where there is always a tiny chance that something completely fucked up will happen to you.  Deal with it.

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16 Responses to TSA Body Scanners.

  1. Uek says:

    Actually that isn’t true, you can’t really get shit over these scanners. I’m sure a fix will come out shortly, but I’ve yet to see one(with metal detectors it was 6mil antistatic bags over metal gun parts.

  2. agnophilo says:

    @Automaton_Emotion – : )@Uek – Not sure what you mean.  What are you disagreeing with?

  3. Uek says:

    @agnophilo –  in reality there is no way to reliably prevent someone who wants to do some damage and doesn’t care about making it out alive from eventually hurting people. – The reality is so far, it’s working. I’ve yet to see anyone post otherwise.

  4. tgwiy says:

    If I were in the states, I would just start showing up to the airports in my underwear/bathing suit and a housecoat. Just to make a point. Or make animal noises during a pat down.

  5. an_OM_aly says:

    My opinion is that we shouldn’t have to deal with it, based on the scientific fact that x-rays are harmful to humans; also what i believe may be facts, e.g. there is no reliable way to prevent someone from doing damage (what you said), and the low odds of something bad happening (more danger to life driving cars).imo,the TSA only gives the illusion of safety, and we give up our right to privacy by agreeing to a naked picture, or having our private parts touched.  It seems to me that we’re all considered guilty.I think there’s big money in this, politics and big business, another reason not to like it.  Nine years after 9/11 this is the best we can come with?I wish more people thought my way, but if i do decide to fly (last time i thought just taking shoes off was weird) i guess i will just have to deal with it.

  6. agnophilo says:

    @Uek – Really?@tgwiy – Heh : )  Go in naked and they will, ironically, not let you on the plane.@an_OM_aly – You can’t be forced to get scanned if I’m not mistaken.  But yeah I agree, especially with you agreeing with me : )@The_ATM – Thanks.

  7. Uek says:

    @agnophilo – since it’s inception, of course.

  8. agnophilo says:

    @Uek – The point was the link to the list of terrorist incidents in the US since 9/11, which I don’t even think includes a dude deliberately crashing his plane into an IRS office and various other events.

  9. Uek says:

    @agnophilo – yes, and my point was to state that since scatter xray has been in use, nothing has happened, and no one has beaten it. And those that usually do as proof of concept haven’t tried because for now, most would argue it can’t be beaten. Except for idiots that argue that everything can be beaten all the time, but provide no basis for argument. Your point is a red herring.

  10. agnophilo says:

    @Uek – You’re acting as though you’ve refuted something I’ve said when nothing you’ve said has been relevant to this blog.  And you could beat the system by simply getting a weapon on the other side of it, avoiding being scanned, or using something as a weapon that wouldn’t show up. The fact that you can’t smuggle an uzi through the machine doesn’t mean we’re 100% safe, and as I said even if 9/11 happened once or even several times a year, you would still be in more danger of dying driving to the airport than dying in a plane crash, terrorism-related or otherwise.

  11. Uek says:

    @agnophilo – in reality there is no way to reliably prevent someone who wants to do some damage and doesn’t care about making it out alive from eventually hurting people”.- Not true. And I refuted it.And you could beat the system by simply getting a weapon on the other side of it, avoiding being scanned, or using something as a weapon that wouldn’t show up.– True but my point was about scatter xray, weapons that wouldn’t set off a metal detector show up easily on scatter xray (because they are dense, much more so then clothing or flesh).

  12. mcbery says:

    I will deal with it by not putting up with it. I didn’t read your other comments but no way, no how, no deal. That’s the way I feel and I’m sticking with it.

  13. agnophilo says:

    @Uek – It works well, I’ll grant that. But my point is that it doesn’t make us perfectly 100% safe, and nothing will, but that it doesn’t matter since we’re still way safer than people seem to think.

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