The 3/4 Christian History No One Knows About.

Below is part of a response to someone in the comment section of my last blog about the history and origins of christianity as a religion, much of which very few people in america know anything about.  To hear modern evangelists talk about it they think the religion spread across the world on the basis of the awesomeness and credibility of the stories in the new testament, having no notion of the fact that it was illegal to not be christian for almost the entire history of the religion.  Here is the comment:

He said:

“And also, we have

to remember that there were many miracles performed by Jesus so that
people would know that he is God, and so that he would fulfill
scripture. They stood out during that time period too, just as they
would today.”

To which I said:

The miracles he was said to have performed, resurrections, rising from the dead and ascending into heaven, turning water to wine etc were actually common miracle stories before jesus, and similar miracles were attributed to many other people just within judeo-christian tradition.  There are many “heretical” texts describing other people who were believed to be the messiah, were crucified, had devoted followers etc.  Jesus was the strand of spaghetti that stuck to the wall so to speak, largely because (if you step back from the mythos for a moment and look at the sociopolitical history) of the conversion of constantine to christianity and his proclamation of christian tolerance throughout the roman empire, followed later by theodosius the first making christianity the official state religion of the roman empire, the largest empire in the history of the planet, and banning all other forms of worship.  The nicene creed, complilation of the “bible” from various “accepted” texts (excluding more texts than it included) etc were all decreed by an iron age dictatorship.  This was the birth of the religion.  Then after the collapse of the roman empire the new dictatorships emerged in the now christian roman empire claiming divine authority and lineage of the royal families and with support of the catholic church which arose in rome as the only legal form of worship.  For almost all of the history of christianity (at least 3/4) not adhering to the religion was illegal in the christian world.  Even in the early american colonies not attending church services at least once a month (in the age before automobiles when farmers had to travel many miles to attend) was punished by being publicly whipped.

This is historically why christ’s miracles are accepted and others are not (in the christian world, in other places people believe in other miracle stories and reject christianity and they worshiped literally hundreds of gods in rome before it was outlawed).


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17 Responses to The 3/4 Christian History No One Knows About.

  1. I guess the 1/4 that believe this what you say are the spagetti monster chasers.Ever thought maybe the reason 3/4 of the Christian population don’t know about this is because it isn’t truth? hummmmm……Man,where do you get this stuff.I really thought you were smarter than this Mark

  2. agnophilo says:

    @Inspectorgrampy5 – I said the three quarters of christian history most people don’t know about, not the history 3/4 of people don’t accept.  Everything I said is historical fact.  What specifically are you saying isn’t true?

  3. runisom48 says:

    I learned this stuff a long time ago. I used to be a Christian but I quit. You are right in this – the average Christian knows little of the religions origin. The hypnotic indoctrination that began centuries ago is still being passed on as truth.

  4. agnophilo says:

    @runisom48 – To be fair this is america, education in general sucks.

  5. yea….I don’t believe Jesus performed any miracles and I don’t think he was God.  I do however believe that he lived and that he was a philosopher, but in what region/place, I don’t know.  Evangelists scare me.

  6. agnophilo says:

    @hesacontradiction – I agree pretty much – I don’t have any way of knowing what’s true and false about jesus.

  7. whyzat says:

    I heard someone say once that Jesus’ story survived because he had such good p.r. His disciples lost their jobs after he died so it behooved them to continue the movement with vigor. I, too, have heard that there were a lot of prophets going around at the time making predictions and teaching various themes for surviving the apocolypse. Wait, maybe times haven’t changes so much after all!

  8. runisom48 says:

    books are just books – who really knows if what they contain is true or not. maybe Jesus did miracles, maybe not. i have non Christian books that tell of other people who both recieved and initiated miracles. since America is Christian based, knowledge of anything miraculous apart from Christ has been suppressed or classified as Satanic. 

  9. agnophilo says:

    @whyzat – Or it could be that they thought he was god and like with modern religious beliefs the belief was reinforced by conflicting evidence – when their god was killed they just maintained that it was all part of the plan to rationalize.  Or most of the story if fictional to begin with.  There’s really no way to even know, nobody even knows for sure who wrote the gospels.@runisom48 – True.  And as the blog says for most of christian history it was literally illegal to believe in anything but catholicism. 

  10. cmdr_keen says:

    Also, it was more so Paul – a Roman who had the ability, money, skills and background as a former Pharisee – who helped spread Christianity out from it’s beginnings in modern-day Israel. If you think about it, how else could a simple carpenter from Nazareth ascend to the heights that he has over the years? Christianity needed someone like Paul to ensure it didn’t just fizzle and die.

  11. agnophilo says:

    @cmdr_keen – True.  And paul invented the religion in many ways more than jesus did.

  12. apb102088 says:

    Hey, I’m a female. I really need to change my picture I reckon.

  13. agnophilo says:

    @apb102088 – Hi, though I’m not sure why you’re announcing your gender and saying nothing else.  What’s up?

  14. apb102088 says:

    @agnophilo – hahaha because it was my comment you were addressing in this blog, and you said “HE said.” A couple people have thought I was the guy in the photo too. So yeah I probably should change it.

  15. agnophilo says:

    @apb102088 – Ah, thanks.  And sorry, no offense meant, I just use he as a default unless I know someone’s female.  I usually pay little attention to avatars.  Will change it if you want.But yeah, thought for a sec you were making a lame pass, lol.

  16. apb102088 says:

    @agnophilo – No offense taken, I just wanted you to know at least the gender of who you’re talking to. Yeah it might be online, but I like to sort of know who I’m talking to. 

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