Please Read This If You Watch Fox News.

Can you imagine how fox news would react if this were happening to tea party protesters instead?


(Iraq war vet btw)

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What was the fox news’ reaction?  Lets ask Bill O’Reilly:

“I don’t think we have the right to monday morning quarterback the police, especially at UC Davis which is, you know, a fairly liberal campus…”

The full clip, where they downplay pepper spray as “a food product essentially” that “just burns your eyes”.

I just love when partisan side-taking becomes borderline sociopathic, don’t you?


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35 Responses to Please Read This If You Watch Fox News.

  1. YouToMe says:

    Wow they were just sitting there!!!Unconscionable

  2. borderline? you’re too kind. 

  3. agnophilo says:

    @YouToMe – I know.@complicatedlight – Unlike conservative pundits I try to be.

  4. daavidd says:

    There’s an interesting, alleged, case where a woman in Seattle got a miscarriage due to injuries by police brutality. She was pepper sprayed and stomped on. I wonder if the conservative right wingers would call the policemen baby killers. But naw, I think they are twisted enough to say some shit about the woman.

  5. agnophilo says:

    @daavidd – I can easily imagine anne coulter or limbaugh saying something “like she was a liberal so she probably would’ve aborted it anyway” and dismissing it out of hand.

  6. daavidd says:

    Also they pepper-sprayed an 84 year old, Dorli Raine. And yeah, sure, policemen were just doing their jobs. These brutality is implicit to the problem, it is to be expected – the policemen are the stings, while the real problems are hiding behind their doors.

  7. <li>Declaration of Independence “That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness” <li>Virginia Declaration of Rights, Section II “That all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people; that magistrates are their trustees and servants, and at all times amenable to them”

  8. YouToMe says:

    Unrelated. Yay for Santa cap!

  9. moss_icon says:

    Quite honestly I’ve had enough trying to reason how American politics even pretends to have an ounce of integrity or intelligence to it these days. I think politics should be taken off America until it can learn to play right.

  10. You must find it totally ironic that the police were acting under the orders of Democrat mayors and university chancellors who were once greatly sympathetic to OWS but finally got sick of them stinking up the place.

  11. agnophilo says:

    @daavidd – And teargassed people in wheelchairs – and I agree about behind doors.@Cookstergirl88 – Yup.@YouToMe – : )@moss_icon – If only it were possible.@hectoramemnon – The OWS movement isn’t a democratic party thing, though republicans staunchly oppose it.

  12. @agnophilo – OWS is totally Democrat. The GOP opposes it and the Democrats gave it their full support until it started driving Dem poll numbers down.OWS protests literally stink up the place with urine and feces all over the places, rapes, stabbing, disease, mayhem, killing local businesses; all in the name of protest.Those are all Democrat Party sanctioned tactics. Think Wisconsin.Don’t you also think it’s ironic that the Democrat Party is moving to ban OWS from its 2012 nominating convention?

  13. agnophilo says:

    So rape is a democratic party sanctioned tactic?Whatever dude, not even going to reply further.

  14. To my knowledge, Tea Party rally organizer always obtained local permits and abided by local laws. They didn’t attempt to “occupy” any space outside the bounds of their permits, nor did they resist lawful (court approved) police requests to disperse. There is a Constitutional/lawful way to protest and occupy just doesn’t get it.As far a police brutality, when you say “no” to a law officer, he/she is authorized to use reasonable force for compliance. The more you resist, the more force is necessary. When it gets to the point where they have to hold you face down with a knee in your back, yeah, some cuts and bruises will result.  Whose fault is that?Your indictment of Fox News is way off base, since there is nearly zero similarity between a tea party protest and this occupy crapola.

  15. daavidd says:

    @hectoramemnon – Have you ever fucking been to Zuccotti Park?

  16. daavidd says:

    @IfIOnlyKnewThen – No the REAL Boston Tea Party was a mother fucking felony. Those loonies put shame into the name….while the Occupation is probably, at most a misdemeanor. Who gives a shit about permits in NYC, Bloomberg is an asshole.

  17. @daavidd – Zuccotti Park is exactly what I’m talking about. It was private property which Mayor Bloomberg completely ignored. I listened to some local business owners tell how the protesters destroyed their restrooms and drove away business.That whole place became a stinking, disease ridden pest hole. There were rapes and stabbings too.Bloomberg finally lost patience when poll numbers started dropping and he sent in the authorities to clean the place up.In Los Angeles, OWS left 30 tons of trash.

  18. agnophilo says:

    @IfIOnlyKnewThen – So praying college kids who are in no way threatening you point blank in the face is okay?  Sending people to the hospital in droves is okay?  Cops have even assaulted members of the press.  How about cops shooting people, would that be reasonable force?@hectoramemnon – No, they “left behind” ie were not allowed to take with them when they were arrested, 30 tons of mostly personal possessions.  Yeah, OMG look at all the “trash“.

  19. @agnophilo – A lawless occupation is what it is. Democrat Mayor Villaraigosa offered the moon to get rid of those reprobates and it ended up in a confrontation.Don’t blame the police. They are the iron hand of Democrat will.

  20. agnophilo says:

    @hectoramemnon – So nothing a cop does is ever too extreme and a protest held on private property by poor people is evil – gotcha.

  21. agnophilo says:

    I just hope that iron will kicks your ass someday for peacefully demonstrating.  Oh wait, what am I saying – you would have to care about something other than yourself to stand up for a cause. Never mind.

  22. @agnophilo – Your post isn’t about rogue cops. It’s a general insult against all policemen.I am offering a correction.The people who are guilty of the atrocities are your heroes: Democrat politicians and leftist university chancellors.Not the police.

  23. agnophilo says:

    @hectoramemnon – Actually the blog isn’t even about policemen, let alone all policemen.  It’s an attack on the inhumanity of conservative pundits and the notion that it’s only outrageous to brutalize the “right” people.And when did I say any of these people were my “heroes”.  I’m sorry, but not everyone fits into your little right-left 2-dimensional view of the world.  People who shut down free speech are assholes no matter what job they hold or what party they come from.

  24. @agnophilo – You speculated how FOX news would cover occupy vs. Tea Party, and I merely pointed out some significant differences in the MO of both groups. It doesn’t matter how “peaceful” a group is (not all occupiers were equally peaceful), once they cross the legal line and a court order to disperse is issued, they can either comply or resist, and if they refuse to comply then they can expect to be forcibly removed. There’s nothing heinous or unconstitutional about it. If granny in wheelchair got hurt, granny shouldn’t have been defying a police order, it isn’t rocket science. Which is more desireable – pepper spray? Billy club? Taser? I’m sure police would much prefer that occupiers simply abide by the law (like, for instance, Tea Party protesters).On a side note, Bill O’Reilly is a FOX news commentator (i.e. he shares his personal views). He is not a news reporter, in the same way that Rachel Maddow, Keith Oberman, etc. are not news reporters. Actual FOX news coverage has been rated among the most balanced of any network, cable or otherwise.

  25. @agnophilo – The real inhumanity is not taking place on Fox News. The inhumanity is OWS which was a festering puss pocket from the very start.Police enforce the law. And these days the law is what Democrat politicians say it is.Complain about them, not Fox News.

  26. agnophilo says:

    @IfIOnlyKnewThen – I didn’t say o’reilly was a news reporter, though the little fox “news” emblem in the corner of the screen kind of suggests otherwise.  And one of the more infamous protests as was mentioned above was on private property.  If you put a sign on your front lawn advocating an issue can the police come and arrest you?  They claimed it was because the park was not being cleaned properly because the protesters were camped there and it was thus a public health danger – they don’t arrest people for public health violations.  And if the pepper spraying was legitimate a) why did they lie about what had happened to try to justify it (claiming the crowd had separated them from the other officers and they couldn’t get to them) and why were the two officers and the police chief put on administrative leave?  Btw did you watch the video?  Also those canisters are made to spray over large crowds of violent rioters, not directly into the faces of non-violent protesters, which is why of the group 11 needed medical treatment and two were hospitalized.  On what planet is putting someone in the hospital who exhibits zero aggression or violence not excessive force?  If the cops tell you to move your car because it’s parked where it’s not supposed to be and you say “no” can they start just wailing on you?

  27. agnophilo says:

    @hectoramemnon – Your bigotry and bile has nothing to do with the point of this blog – spew it elsewhere please.

  28. agnophilo says:

    @IfIOnlyKnewThen – And “balanced” means nothing, pro wrestling is “balanced”.  Fox is not accurate or objective at all, and has a definite partisan spin which has been well documented many times, many ways.  Do you think hannity and colmes was a “balanced” show?  Or do you think it was a show with one blowhard and one punching bag?  Btw it’s now just hannity.

  29. @agnophilo – Fox News gets the highest ratings in the nation.That means you are taking it upon yourself to call America bigoted and full of bile.Look in the mirror.

  30. @agnophilo – C’mon, you’re smarter than this. FOX doesn’t need me to defend them, but briefly: “Hard news” is factual news reporting. Hard news programs on FOX include The FOX Report at 7pm and several other time slots. These actual news segments have never been credibly labeled as biased by anyone. They consistently provide experts on both sides of any controversial issue and give them equal time. Hannity and Colmes, like O’Reilly, was a commentary show. FOX hard news coverage is rated more unbiased than any other hard news broadcast. Innacurate “FOX bashing” is a sign of weak minds/Kool Aid, usually by folks who never watched anything but O’Reilly. If all I watched was Keith Oberman I’d figure all of MSNBC were uneducated a**holes too.  

  31. agnophilo says:

    @hectoramemnon – I said you were full of bigotry and bile, how does that translate into fox news therefore all americans?  Way to not deal with a personal criticism.@IfIOnlyKnewThen – So your defense of fox from the accusation that it is misleading and partisan is that it’s only misleading and partisan 23 hours a day?

  32. @agnophilo – Personal insults come from people who have no argument. You declare yourself the loser when you insult people.Being a loser is something you have to deal with yourself.

  33. agnophilo says:

    @hectoramemnon – You haven’t given any argument that I haven’t dealt with intelligently.  I asked you to spew your bile elsewhere because it has nothing to do with my argument.And I like that you say insulting someone means you lose the argument then call me a loser in the next breath.  Please just take your soul-crushing hateful crap somewhere else.

  34. A concerned citizen should never trust the police. NEVER. Not in this country. Too much vague power coupled with too little education is a recipe for corruption and discrimination. How do you feel about Ron Paul? 

  35. agnophilo says:

    @DrummingMediocrity – I used to like him, but one good republican is basically useless and I think a lot of his ideas are ridiculously idealistic – he’s more radical about deregulation than his conservative brethren.  The idea that if we get rid of regulations corporations will police themselves is like the idea that if we get rid of the police there will be less crime.

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