The Government Making Catholics Pay For Birth Control.

I was responding to people acting like democrats were fascists because by law insurance companies have to cover birth control, including someone paraphrasing the “first they came for…” quote about the rise of the nazis.

Making your taxes pay for something you don’t agree with is not a violation of your rights.  You have an absolute right for the government not to tell you what to think, what to believe, what to say, how to pray, what church to attend, whether to pray or attend church at all etc.  You do not have a right to veto every single thing done with your tax dollars.  If everyone had to agree with how every dollar of tax money was spent then every government act would require unanimous consent, which would make government actions impossible because someone will always disagree.  Government action requires that the majority consent, not everyone.  I thought the iraq war was bullshit, and so did about half of the country.  But we still had to shell out about a trillion dollars to pay for it.  And I never claimed it was tyranny, I just argued against it.  Well actually it was kind of tyrannical because it was a declaration of war without the consent of congress using false information to invoke a law which allows the president to respond to immediate threats without congressional approval so yes it was in a sense illegal.  But the equivalent would be if congress had declared war and I said it was illegal simply because I didn’t agree with congress.

And “freedom of religion” is not a trump card that invalidates any law that goes against your religious beliefs.  If that were the case then the emancipation proclamation would be negated by the book of exodus which allows for slavery, the 19th amendment which grants women the right to vote would be negated by 1 timothy 2:12 which states “I (god) do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.”  I could probably find examples all day and negate damn near every bit of social progress in united states history.  Hell, many people when the nation was founded believed as part of their religion that the king and the pope had absolute power given by god.  So I guess the whole damn country is illegal.

Bottom line: if you don’t like something, protest it.  Lobby against it, reform it, fix it, kick the guys who did it out of office.  But you are not the dictator of america, and you don’t have the right to arbitrarily and unilaterally set policy.  Politicians on the right are called tyrants for flagrantly and repeatedly disregarding the law.  Politicians on the left are called tyrants for simply not agreeing with conservatives.


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12 Responses to The Government Making Catholics Pay For Birth Control.

  1. daavidd says:

    “And ‘freedom of religion’ is not a trump card that invalidates any law that goes against your religious beliefs.”Also for some reason they use this freedom to freely impose their beliefs on others.

  2. agnophilo says:

    @daavidd – Yeah, unfortunately.

  3. This post is either misinformed or outright dishonest. This is not an objection toward tax dollars going toward contraception. The objection is that Catholic institutions are being forced to directly pay for birth control coverage in violation of their beliefs. The mandate is unconstitutional.

  4. agnophilo says:

    @randomneuralfirings – What article of the constitution does it violate exactly?  “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;  To borrow money on the credit of the United States;  To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;”- Section 8, US constitution.Where is the “the government can’t make you pay for something you don’t like” clause?

  5. @randomneuralfirings – “The mandate is unconstitutional.”A law isn’t unconstitutional merely because you personally disagree with it.

  6. agnophilo says:

    @Celestial_Teapot – Note the absence of a response to my asking which part of the constitution it violates.@randomneuralfirings – See the above.

  7. @agnophilo – Court observers seem to expect SCOTUS to uphold the indvidiual mandate 7-2 or 8-1. (With the minority being Thomas or Thomas and Scalia)

  8. @agnophilo – Yeah. Partisan tools mime orthodox positions without an actual understanding of their basis or underlying argument.

  9. agnophilo says:

    @Celestial_Teapot – Interesting.@Celestial_Teapot – What’s the point of orthodoxy if you have to think?

  10. @agnophilo – The reasoning is that while Roberts and Alito are right-leaning in their jurisprudence, they’re far less radical than Scalia and Thomas. Precedence seems to support the government’s position on PPACA.

  11. agnophilo says:

    @Celestial_Teapot – The supreme court has made some pretty whacky partisan rulings lately, so who knows.

  12. @agnophilo – As best as I can get a handle on it, and therefore phrase it, the healthcare mandate for employers to fund coverage for contraception and abortion violates (employers’) freedom of conscience. This being derived from the First Amendment, which prohibits Congress from finagling with the content of one’s religious beliefs.  The pertinent beliefs referred is the Roman Catholic opposition to artificial birth control, and the belief of the Christian community at large that human life begins at conception, and abortion on demand is therefore immoral.I add the caveat (though it’s probably obvious) that Christians view Roe v. Wade the same way that many view Dred Scott v. Sanford; a tragic miscarriage of justice that denied the dignity of personhood to what evidently were (and are) human beings.

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