Evolution, Obama and The Meaning Of Life.

I was just reading a xanga blog where someone said that evolution is reasonable to believe in but leads to hopelessness.  But I think that a naturalistic view only leads to a feeling of hopelessness or nihilism if your psyche is out of whack and you only care about yourself.  It’s good to care about yourself (otherwise we’d all die naked of starvation after giving away all of our posessions) but it’s only healthy if it’s balanced out by a strong sense of caring about others, about your children, about future generations and the good of mankind, about giving something back. 

This made me think of obama and romney.  Now I don’t know what obama’s religious views are, but to me he seems like a philosophical christian who is not really big on the supernatural parts of the religion, but is more about the morality of jesus – which to me is a good thing.  I don’t think he’s an atheist but he essentially operates the same way many atheists do, he does a good deed because it’s good not for some reward in heaven etc.  At least that’s the impression I get from him.  When he was asked in a townhall meeting during the first campaign by a little girl why he wanted to be president his answer was that he worries about what the world his kids will grow up will be like, whether they will have social security or be able to afford college etc. 

When Anne Romney was asked why her husband was seeking the office of president she said something to the effect of they’ve got plenty of money so what is there left to do.  In other words boredom and self indulgence.  Once you can buy anything you can imagine, acquire that which you can’t buy.

That, in my opinion, is the road to hopelessness and nihilism.  Not accepting that bacteria can develop a resistance to antibiotics.

Now I’m off to volunteer once more for the obama campaign : )

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22 Responses to Evolution, Obama and The Meaning Of Life.

  1. vexations says:

    I thought Obama did a nice job last night.  

  2. Still on the border of whether I’ll vote Obama or Jill Stein (Green Party). My state’s a lock for Obama already…

  3. ascultafili says:

    I guess the reason some religious people cant accept evolution is the void it leaves them.  But so would relativity and the second law of thermodynamics, for that matter.  The scientific method is something few people outside science really grasp. 

  4. TheSutraDude says:

    Good post. The quotation from Einstein is a great one. The laws of cause and effect exist within our behavior every bit as much as they do in what we view in the natural world. The effects of causes we make are far reaching but there is also an immediacy of effect when one offers a hand to another. When I do something for someone I feel like my day was fuller and better lived. 

  5. @GodlessLiberal – my state is a lock for Romney, so i’m considering voting for Stein to make a statement.  

  6. I mean, the world is in a terrible crisis, but, does it really matter? Why don’t we just send everyone to tell and only save those who are worthy of salvation. Perhaps you are smart enough to figure out a way to commit suicide with the least amount of pain. I would greatly appreciate it.

  7. Vote for Romney.  He’s got plenty of money so what is there left to do!It is a glorious campaign slogan.  I like it.  And add a good-natured chuckle at the end to show that he’s just like you and me:  He’s got plenty of money so what is there left to do hahaha.

  8. YouToMe says:

    hahaha that’s totally me (hey! Squirrels)

  9. agnophilo says:

    @vexations – I haven’t even watched the second debate yet – I’m so lazy.@GodlessLiberal – Vote for obama, the way it’s sizing up if the election were held today he could win the electoral college but lose the popular vote, which politically would be a blow to a second administration.@ascultafili – I’ve never met someone who didn’t accept evolution and knew what it actually was at the same time.  People reject it because they’re told it’s the anti-god theory, which is just BS.@TheSutraDude – True dat.@flapper_femme_fatale – Know what would really make a statement? Voting for obama : )@RulerofMasons – The world has seen a lot worse.  I don’t know if you’re being serious with all this doom saying, but if you want to feel better about where we’re going look at where we’ve been – study the unvarnished history of the world, of religion, of politics of the US – the world, as fucked up as it is, is getting better.  We feel pain at it’s imperfections only because we are capable of appreciating the abyss between what it is and what it could be – that is the first necessary step toward bridging that abyss.  We look at how shitty things are now and think “oh it’s hopeless”, when people thought the same thing about abolishing slavery, women’s rights, every big conquering empire that’s come and gone and countless other things.  And our problems are miniscule compared to those of a society where nearly no one can read or write, where the best solution anyone has yet conceived for mental illness is to torture the mentally ill to make the demons want to leave them.The society we live in is, for all it’s flaws, infinitely better than the one our ancestors lived in just a handful of generations ago.  And the one we leave to our children’s children will, as unlikely as it may seem, be better than the one we have today.

  10. agnophilo says:

    @YouToMe – That is so you : )@we_deny_everything – Yeah really.  Vote Romney for president – because what do you get the man who has six of everything?

  11. @agnophilo – hehe true 🙂  but alas, i live in MO.  Obama didn’t even get that state in 2008.  i need to move to where it’s blue.  

  12. agnophilo says:

    @flapper_femme_fatale – It’s blue all over, wherever there are cities.

  13. @agnophilo – you’d be surprised at how conservative St. Louis is.  we have a lot of rich white people in the suburbs who are afraid of anyone from the inner city.  

  14. TheSutraDude says:

    @we_deny_everything – This was a first in Massachusetts history. After being elected Governor of Mass Romney closed one of the elevators in the State House to the public so he could use it as his personal elevator. Apparently he didn’t want to get in an elevator with the little people. “Democratic leaders, who now dominate the Massachusetts State House and control the governor’s office, gleefully note the rope lines are gone and the Romney executive elevator has since been reopened to the general public.” http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/07/politics/romney-massachusetts/index.html

  15. YouToMe says:

    You give new meaning to the phrase ” bleeding- heart liberal”

  16. PPhilip says:

    @flapper_femme_fatale – What about the house of rep or senator for your state? Will no democrats win there too?

  17. agnophilo says:

    @flapper_femme_fatale – Also, as I said to godless liberal, obama could win the electoral college but lose the popular vote (it seems likely at the moment but we’ll see) which would be a blow politically and would give fox news and birthers and their ilk one more reason to claim his presidency is illegitimate, so I’d vote obama.  And yeah I suppose it’s not uniform.  And in “blue” areas there are conservatives and in red areas there are liberals, just not in the majority.@TheSutraDude – What a prick.  Rec’d your comment.@YouToMe – Wrong blog, but thanks : )

  18. mommachatter says:

    Just wanted you to know I stopped by…Reads like there is another Civil War going on…this time the Blue and the Red.  I think I have heard more arguing this election than any other (and I have been around one or two). 

  19. agnophilo says:

    @mommachatter – Blame it on the citizens united ruling which legalized unlimited corporate donations to political campaigns.

  20. How about “Quantum Mechanics, Romney, and the Meaning of Life After Death”?

  21. @PPhilip – districts in my area are very polarized, thanks to gerrymandering.  the conservatives and liberals currently in office have little to no risk of losing their seats.  our Democratic governor is very moderate.  the only tight race is Akin vs. McCaskill.  

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